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it doesn't have a good screen and it's clunky to navigate, keybed could be better but it's good for a midrange synth, could use another flash board slot

*do

fuck what can it not fo

wait shit really?

if you like trackers the moxf has a step sequencer

it might work in my favor considering I prefer trackers

i use logic but i've used live for 6 years before that

in fact ive got a couple

ive got a good daw so the moxf might be a good choice

you can absolutely just write shit by hand into a daw like i still do 90% of the time since i'm lazy but it's slow, cumbersome and retarded

i'd say get a keyboard first tbh

moxf should do USB-MIDI too so that's one less thing to buy if you don't already have an interface

oh yeah

on a keyboard from 1989

when i got my korg m1 i couldn't believe how much better the keybed felt

i had a launchkey mk2 and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

they feel awful

they just are

I dont have one but may I ask how so?

those keybeds are so fucking bad

btw if you have a midi controller you should probably sell it if you're planning to get a keyboard

yes it is

thats still a shit ton of money even in USD

pre-pandemic

maybe it was 28 tho

27 thousand euros, not dollars

27 WHAT NOW?????

there's always someone retarded enough to fall for it

no fucking wonder jupiter-8s have been sold for 27K+

and the worst part? people fall for it

yep

so, tons of upmarking?

CybrGrl1984 said:

considering its always the first result when you look up hardware I imagine its going to be hard to avoid

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fuckers on reverb are worse than real estate sales agents

i'd say the moxf is the best option out of all of them even if it's double your budget, it can load a ton of good libraries (but you need to find one with a 512/1024mb flash module included), has a good enough keybed, has usb audio so you don't need an interface, can act as an interface for other instruments and it's still a workstation (though a clunky one) if you don't want to use a pc (plus it has the biggest wave ROM out of the box)

considering its always the first result when you look up hardware I imagine its going to be hard to avoid

also never use reverb, it's a shit site

np

thank you so goddamn much you dont know how much help youve been

tl;dr if you don't have a keyboard already an ES6 has an excellent keybed and it sounds really good, alternatively there's the triton extreme for around 500 but the triton vst is identical to the hardware and the keybed itself isn't worth 500 bucks, ideally a MOXF is the most capable one and its best libraries don't have a digital equivalent - midrange keybed but it gets the job done and has an usb-audio interface too - if you have a keyboard the fantom-xr is good and relatively cheap (and you can load S-7XX CDs on it after converting them but it's painfully slow) but the srx expansion boards are still somewhat expensive and they have (bad but still usable) VST versions too - the rack ES costs around the same, accepts two PLG cards (but none of them are really worth owning) but can't be expanded with ram so you can't load samples on it unlike the keyboard

drum machines don't attract me whatsoever, there's only so much you can do with them before you get bored

there are the MU1000/2000EX too, same deals as the edirol ones but yamaha - probably won't work with modern hardware though

if you can get it for 150 bucks there's also the motif classic but don't get the rack version, it's terrible

yamaha has a few options if you get lucky, there's the motif stuff (mainly the ES6 for ~300 if you get lucky or the rack ES)) or if you can double your budget there's the MOXF (will serve you extremely well despite the cheap keybed and you can load all the libraries I uploaded)

there aren't many good recommendations on the korg side unless you can find a triton extreme for a very, very good price (300-500) but that's only if you don't have a good keyboard already, korg's vsts are genuinely indistinguishable from the hardware (aside from the M1 but only because the M1 had terrible outputs)

Xeraser said:

there's the edirol-sd80/sd-90, essentially a GM2 desktop module plus a mini xv-5080 with half the ROM and a few sounds from a few expansion cards. the sd-90 includes an audio interface that works wonderfully

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bonus: it's the magical windows era touhou music box

might be the cheapest soundcard with spdif ins/outs you can get period, especially for a mac

2 stereo analog outs, 1 stereo analog in, 1 headphones out, 1 mic/line in, 1 optical in/out and 1 coaxial in/out, drivers still work on w10 and EVEN MORE SURPRISINGLY OSX MOJAVE

there's the edirol-sd80/sd-90, essentially a GM2 desktop module plus a mini xv-5080 with half the ROM and a few sounds from a few expansion cards. the sd-90 includes an audio interface that works wonderfully

old roland stuff is still good, if you're in the 300 bucks range a jv-1080 is still valid if not limited (though you could get lucky and find a pre-expanded one with the vintage synth card like i did) or if you can save just a bit more the fantom-xr is genuinely great if you can find one with the sampling tools expansion kit (most 2005+ units have it included from the factory, there's a sticker on the front so it's easy to tell)

but ill take note to stay away from post 1996 Rolland