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anon said:

A full gigabyte? I did consider a Fantom-XR at one point. How well does it work as a sampler (loading and modifying samples/patches, etc.)?

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it depends honestly

I can't imagine how slow it'd be even when compared to pc133

128mb would've costed an absolute fortune back then

I think those might be even older
SIMMs

I did take a couple of pics of the inside the first time I opened it up. I could check those.

Don't know if the Ultras use different memory.

It's an E4X

anon said:

I'm not sure what the E4 uses, but loading a 128MB bank does take some time. I do think the limiting factor in my case is the ZuluSCSI, however. But a 64MB bank shouldn't take that long.

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not sure honestly, probably whatever was available in 1994 if it's the original E4

A full gigabyte? I did consider a Fantom-XR at one point. How well does it work as a sampler (loading and modifying samples/patches, etc.)?

I'm not sure what the E4 uses, but loading a 128MB bank does take some time. I do think the limiting factor in my case is the ZuluSCSI, however. But a 64MB bank shouldn't take that long.

Thankfully I didn't throw the original 512mb stick away

Xeraser said:

With Rolands most of the time the real limit is twice what they specify as the max

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though after getting 1024mb to work in my Fantom-XR i THINK they specified 512mb max just because loading any more than that will make you want to tear your hair out

But yeah, PC133 is nightmarishly slow

With Rolands most of the time the real limit is twice what they specify as the max

Not sure if that's the actual limit honestly

Xeraser said:

Not sure what kind of RAM the old ones use but if it's the same PC133 that the Fantom -X uses then dear god I'm glad I don't have to use it (yet)

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Is it supposed to be particularly slow? From what I've read, the original MOTIFs top out at 64MB of sample RAM. Even if you want to fill it up, it shouldn't take too long to write 64MB.

Xeraser said:

sometimes instead of saving them as a single file people choose to split a library in two (preset patches and the file(s) with the actual waveforms) so maybe that's what you ran into

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You mean in separate waveform and voice files instead of "all" files? That makes sense. On E-MUs the only files are banks, but on the E4 you can browse banks and load individual patches or samples.

Not sure what kind of RAM the old ones use but if it's the same PC133 that the Fantom
-X uses then dear god I'm glad I don't have to use it (yet)

It's usually so that you can just load the samples in RAM and keep them there if you don't need them immediately and keep some free banks for other presets, it's convenient on older MOTIFs that use conventional RAM but very annoying on the XF but then again you only have to do it once

anon said:

The file size is part of what clued me in. It's good to know that the dummy data is normal, however.

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sometimes instead of saving them as a single file people choose to split a library in two (preset patches and the file(s) with the actual waveforms) so maybe that's what you ran into

The file size is part of what clued me in. It's good to know that the dummy data is normal, however.

although you'll only find some pianos in the ES/Classic ones iirc

If you want to extract the samples from the few libraries that have them (you can tell which have samples just by looking at the filesize) grab a copy of Awave Studio from somewhere like Audioz

I can't remember what the last sampler-only keyboard/workstation was tbh

anon said:

That would explain it. I thought the MOTIF keyboards functioned more like normal samplers, but I guess they also have built-in samples. I should probably give the manual a good reading.

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no they're ROMplers just like its contemporaries

Xeraser said:

as far as I know 90% of the ES/Classic files are just presets

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That would explain it. I thought the MOTIF keyboards functioned more like normal samplers, but I guess they also have built-in samples. I should probably give the manual a good reading.

Insomnia gang rise up

I was supposed to do shit but ended up napping instead and didn't even sleep for a single hour lmao

I removed it for some reason and never plugged it back in

I'll probably investigate later tonight if I can find the usb drive I use for the XF

I haven't really tried loading those because the waveforms in my XF would make them sound different anyway

anon said:

Xeraser Most of the files in the MOTIF ES library you uploaded seem to contain dummy data only (the W3x/W8x files only contain the header and about 4K worth of 0xFF). Do those work fine on your MOTIFs if you try load them as they are in the archive?

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as far as I know 90% of the ES/Classic files are just presets

fair fair

I know, I just thought I'd leave it here for now. I suppose posting in the corresponding thread might be better.

this place is kinda dead at the minute i dunno why

they seem to not be online

Xeraser Most of the files in the MOTIF ES library you uploaded seem to contain dummy data only (the W3x/W8x files only contain the header and about 4K worth of 0xFF). Do those work fine on your MOTIFs if you try load them as they are in the archive?

gm

hmmmmmmmmm

I don't think my signature 'gallery embed' works

literally was just talking about getting rung up and I get a call

Can't relate, also got a confused guy on the line atm

I'm positive I didn't break the contacts so who knows what was wrong with it

Then it just stopped working like two days later after plugging it in

Not really thrilled since the first one had horribly loose sockets

well, writing about it won't get it built - go on and get working

I also need to rebuild a gmmk I RMA'd last year and then just kinda left the replacement there

Xeraser said:

I've resorted to using the kitchen table because there's zero fucking space on my desk

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Linus style

I've resorted to using the kitchen table because there's zero fucking space on my desk